Donna: "It's a funny story actually. We met because Todd interviewed me for a job at the company he was working for. I was working at Bergdorf's in New York City and I went to a sample sale that my girlfriend was having. While I was there, I met someone who told me she had just put in her notice at her job at Alan Flusser. She said, "You should call over there and inquire about this job." So I called. It was a men's designer company and the guy who answered the phone said, "How did you even know about this job?" (She had just put her notice in that morning.) So I interviewed with the owner of the company and he said, "I'm going to have my assistant call you." His assistant was Todd Optican. When I went in to interview with Todd, they were moving offices. It was a freaking mess."
Todd: "People knew me and said to Donna, "Oh so are you going to meet Todd?"
Donna: "And all the girls in the office were like he's really cute and he's straight. blah blah blah."
Todd: "I was the only straight guy that worked there."
Donna: "I wasn't attracted to him at first. I thought he was wearing sort of a funny suit. The second I sat down for the interview, I knew I didn't want the job. The office was too unorganized. I'd leave Bergdorf's for this? So that was it. Then I went on vacation and didn't hear from anyone for a few days. I was in Toronto and called my roommate to check in. She told me this guy left a voicemail on the machine. I told her to listen to the message and then I said, "Well why don't we conference him in?" Because I didn't want to incur more long distance charges. It was expensive in those days. Those days... (Laughs). Well they offered me the job and I said, "You know, I'm on vacation right now, but I think I'm happy at Bergdorf's. I think I'm just going to stay where I am."
Todd: "So I said, "Okay well when you get back to New York, why don't you call me and we'll have dinner?"
Donna: "Then I got off the phone with Todd and my girlfriend said, "Did he just ask you to dinner? That was so weird."
Todd: "Well why not?"
Donna: "So I got back from vacation and I will never forget. It was a Monday night and I called my brother and said, " I HATE my job. I can't do this job anymore." And he said, "Well call up THAT GUY and entertain that other job offer again. Maybe it's something you would like." So I called up Todd. 11 o'clock on a Monday night and he wasn't home. I was thinking, where the hell is he on a Monday night?"
Todd: "Whistling. Out Partying! That was my gig."
Donna: "Then I called him the next day at work and I said “I’d like to entertain the job more, but I don’t really get a lunch hour. I can’t keep running out.” And he said, “Well alright, why don’t we meet for dinner tonight?” So I said “OKAY.” I was very naive. We went for sushi, and I don’t even think we talked about the job. Did we?"
Todd: "I wasn’t there to talk about the job." (They both laugh.)
Donna: "We sat for 3 hours in a sushi restaurant. And that was it. Started dating, I moved in 3 weeks later." (They both laugh again.)
Donna: "My rent was up."
Todd: "She was getting kicked out of her apartment and I had a two bedroom apartment. I forget where my roommate was going."
Donna: "And I ended up taking the job. The funny thing is, I knew nothing about men’s clothing. So Todd was not only doing his job, but he was doing my job too."
Todd: "That was easy for me."
Donna: "I spent my days literally making our dinner reservations, and we could go away all the time. We would go to Boston one weekend, we’d go see his brother, we came out here to California to meet his sister, every weekend we would go somewhere. That’s the story."
Donna: "I say to my kids, I never thought about whether he was going to be a good provider, or a good father… I was 21. When I met him I was 21. I knew nothing about any of that. I married for love."
Todd: "We didn’t think too hard."
Donna: "Well wait a minute, what about your side of what you thought after our first date?"
Todd: "You're right. So I came back after the interview and thought, “Wow, she’s really cute. Athletic.”
Donna: "How did you know I was athletic?"
Todd: "Because on your resume it said “tennis team,” or something."
Donna: "I had a resume? I don’t remember that."
Todd: "Anyways, we had a nice chat, she had a beautiful face."